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Computex 2017 - there are never too many cores!

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As you know, in Taiwan since 30.05.2017/03.06.2017/37 to 2/XNUMX/XNUMX is held annually, already the XNUMXth in a row, the XNUMXnd the largest world exhibition of information and computer technologies. This exhibition touches on various aspects of the IT industry, from computer hardware to telecommunications. In our review today we will touch upon computer hardware, because most of the exhibits at the exhibition are related to gaming industry. In recent times, the segment of technology used in desktop computers and laptops is mainly growing and developing thanks to games. So, let's get down to reviewing the main new products presented at the exhibition!

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One of the most interesting new products presented at Computex 2017 was Nvidia's Max-Q technology - according to the developers, this is a completely new approach to the design of gaming laptops, which will help manufacturers use powerful video cards, such as the GTX 1080, inside thin laptops. Nvidia reports that Max-Q specifications can reduce the power consumption of the GTX 1080 by almost 2 times! The company is working on this technology on the principle that you get the opposite result at a certain point when increasing productivity, and the Max-Q software makes the calculations to achieve the optimal result. The GTX 1080 chip, with half the power consumption, is the same chip found in a rather bulky desktop graphics card, but Nvidia says the mobile version should achieve about 2% of the performance of its big brother, while allowing make it much smaller. Each Max-Q laptop manufacturer will work closely with Nvidia on acoustic and thermal design for maximum efficiency.

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Some of the laptop manufacturers presented their new products at Computex 2017 this week, and the most interesting of them was the Asus Zephyrus from the Republic Of Gamers series. The 17.9mm thick laptop is equipped with a GTX 1080 chip and a 120Hz G-Sync screen, and its cooling system will not exceed the threshold of 39 dBA. This is a good example of how manufacturers are working with Nvidia to create a more efficient design - the Zephyrus has a dual-directional cooling system around the edges of the keyboard and above it, and the rear of the laptop has the ability to further expand to create increased airflow when opening the lid:

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Gaming laptops have been gaining popularity lately, despite their usual bulk and weight—Nvidia says more than 10 million were sold last year—and Max-Q technology could make the category more practical for a wider audience.

Another new product in the field of gaming laptops with Max-Q technology presented at the exhibition was the laptop GT75VR Titan from the company MSI. The screen diagonal is 17,3 inches and buyers will have 2 options available - with Full HD (1920x1080) and 4K (3840x2160) resolutions. The processor will be 4-core Intel Core i7-7820HK from the Kaby Lake family with a maximum frequency of 3,9 GHz. But in this laptop it is overclocked to 4,0-4,2 GHz. All this is cooled by the Coolerbase 5 system. The amount of RAM can reach 64 GB DDR4 RAM, and memory for data storage will be provided by one 2,5-inch drive and two fast NVMe M.2 SSD modules. The role of video cards will be either a single-chip GTX 1080 or SLI from 2 GTX 1070. According to eyewitnesses, video cards can be overclocked. MSI has not yet announced the exact price, but approximately it will be more than 2000 euros.

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Speaking of minimizing, Zotac has unveiled the smallest version of its gaming flagship yet! Be in awe of the Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Mini! The new mini-version of the top-end video cards is intended for those who do not want to sacrifice power, but at the same time want to get very acceptable sizes - with a length of 21 cm, it can even fit into a mini ATX case.

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The size of the card looks even more impressive compared to the rest of Zotac's GTX 1080 Ti lineup, as you can see in the screenshot below. Zotac has not yet announced the price or availability of this new product.

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AMD Computex

Fans of AMD products will have to wait a little longer for the release of RX Vega series gaming cards - their release has been postponed to the end of July. It was expected that the release of a new product at the exhibition would create a real sensation among gamers, but instead the company asked its customers to wait.

At its press conference, AMD showed off its RX Vega series graphics card, but it was not physically shown to the audience, and the gameplay of Prey that was shown was carried out using two Vega cards. So there are no ideas yet as to how powerful they will be.

The company also recalled its adapters for professional computing - Vega Frontier Edition, which will find their use among scientists and engineers. 

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 The characteristics are approximately as follows: the frequency of the HBM2 memory (the card is equipped with 16Gb VRAM) will be 4 times higher than that of the Radeon Fury X, performance is estimated at 13TFLOPS, which is 50% more than that of the Fury X. 

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Despite the fact that AMD has not yet shared any specifications, information about the characteristics has been leaked to the all network. The new Vega chip, according to preliminary information, looks really promising - it will be at least twice as fast as the AMD Radeon RX 580. It will have 4096 stream processors instead of 2304 for the RX 580. Overall performance is estimated at 12.5TFLOPS versus 5.8 for the RX 580. In addition to all this, apparently, the card will be equipped with 8GB of HBM2 (High-Bandwidth Memory) memory with a 2048-bit bus.

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 The most convincing demonstration of performance is, again, the leaked SiSoft Sandra benchmark, which shows speeds 35% faster than the GTX 1080 in specific tests, but still slightly slower than the GTX 1080 Ti.
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Now to the processor news. Intel has finally unveiled its counterweight to AMD's new Ryzen line in the processor wars. If we delve a little deeper into the history of processors in the personal computer market, we can draw the following conclusions: Intel has had a monopoly on the market since 2006 and no one except its only competitor, AMD, could even come close and “overthrow” Intel from the throne. The blue company took advantage with its position and kept the price of computing power quite high. That was until their red competitors came together and released Ryzen, a new line of processors that took the fight with Intel to a new level, causing them to worry.

When it comes to processing power, two things matter - the number of cores and interprocess communication (IPC) efficiency. The latter refers to the efficiency with which each core can perform computations. With its Ryzen processors, AMD has doubled the number of cores compared to offerings from Intel in the same price range. This move, despite the lower IPC, suddenly resulted in buyers having more computing power at their disposal. It goes without saying that there are some pitfalls regarding gaming performance, but they can be ignored.

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Intel has enjoyed its monopoly for quite a long time, but during that time they have done a lot of work. Their all processors are still the best choice for most high-end consumers, but AMD isn't far behind. Top-end processors, especially in serious workstations and servers, are Intel's main strength. After the Ryzen line hit the market, they had to do something about it and it looks like Skylake-X and Core i9 will be a worthy answer.

The Core i9 line looks like this:

  • Intel Core i9 7900X – 10C/20T @ 3.3 GHz (TurboBoost 3.0 to 4.5 GHz) for $999
  • Intel Core i9 7920X – 12C/24T for $1,199
  • Intel Core i9 7940X – 14C/28T for $1,399
  • Intel Core i9 7960X – 16C/32T for $1,699
  • Intel Core i9 7980XE – 18C/36T for $1,999

The base model Core i9 7900X will have 10 cores and 20 threads, the frequency will vary from 3.3 GHz to 4.5 GHz, and the thermal package will be 140W. You get 44 PCIe lanes and 13.75 MB L3 cache. The TDP of the 12-core model will be 165W. The top-end Core i9 7980XE processor claims to be the first CPU whose computing speed will cross the 1 Teraflop mark.

The final products in the Skylake-X line will be the Intel i7-7800X and i7 7820X processors. They will have 6 cores/12 threads and 8 cores/16 threads, frequencies will be 3.5 GHz and 3.6 GHz respectively. The price will be $389 and $599.

This line also includes two Kaby Lake X series processors: i5 7640X and i7 7740X. Both of these processors will be quad-core, and the i7 will come with hyper-threading technology, which means it will support 8 threads. Prices will be $242 and $339 respectively. TDP will be 112W.

One of the main features of the new Intel processors will be the inclusion of a liquid cooling system.

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AMD also did not deprive its fans of fresh information about the new line of processors, although this is very unusual, given that the Ryzen line was released recently and has not yet been properly tested. At the Computyex exhibition the other day, AMD revealed more information about its processors from the series Threadripper. These processors could be the most powerful consumer processors ever introduced. With 16 cores and 32 threads, they will provide users with the same level of performance that Intel products currently dominate the market can provide.

There is no detailed information yet about the new processors from AMD, but we can add that the new socket will be called TR4 and it will be really huge!

Official representatives of Asus provided the world with a preview of the TR4 socket. Asus uses a new socket in their first Ryzen Threadripper motherboard, called Zenith Extreme. Based on the X399 chipset, the motherboard features eight slots for up to 128GB of DDR4 memory, four x16 PCI-E Gen 3 slots, a U.2 slot, three M.2 slots and 12 USB 3.1 ports. Zenith Extreme will also be equipped with a ROG Areion 10GbE card and an 802.11 Wi-Fi module.

But what really stands out the most is the size of the TR4 socket. He is simply HUGE!

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This is what the socket of the new X series processors from Intel looks like compared to the TR4 socket!

According to preliminary data, the Ryzen 9 Threadripper series of processors will be represented by the following models:

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All Threadripper series CPUs are equipped with a 4-channel DDR4 memory controller, include two Summit Ridge crystals and are equipped with a built-in PCI Express 3.0 controller with 64 lanes, 48 ​​of which are designed to work with graphics adapters. The maximum available cache size will be 40 MB (up to 8 MB L2 cache and up to 32 MB shared L3 cache).

In conclusion of the processor news, one might wonder: would it make sense to have so many cores?

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Even Handbrake can't use all the resources of an 18-core, 36-thread processor, so buying such a "mega-core" processor is only worth it if you can use it correctly

In the re-ignited nuclear war between Intel and AMD this summer, one might assume that having more cores means better performance. The truth, as always, is much more interesting and confusing.

How much core you need depends on your needs. If you primarily play games, then these "mega-core" processors are unlikely to provide you with the level of performance you expect. If, however, you do video editing, 3D rendering, and other tasks that require more processing power, then a higher number of processor cores will mean less waiting time to complete a task. Also, having a large number of cores can help with heavy multi-threaded tasks.

The next logical question will be the question of price. In fact, AMD plans to introduce new CPUs not at super-astronomical prices. As we wrote above, the price of new processors from Intel Core i9 series will start at $1,000 for a 10-core chip up to $1,700 for a 16-core chip (and $1,999 for a flagship 18-core chip).

Will AMD announce similar price tags to boost profits or continue its hyper-aggressive pricing with its new widely available Ryzen processors, with 8-core processors starting at around $300? Nobody knows, and even lovers of gossip and false information among the press cannot say anything.

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Despite their impressive specs, Intel's new Core X series processors have one catch: you'll need a new motherboard. The current standard Z270 motherboard chipset is a "consumer product", and the new X-series processors will have a different pin layout and will be aimed at more demanding and affluent customers.

The new X299 chipset won't be much of an upgrade over the Z270, but it will be a significant leap over the X99 motherboards that powered Intel's last generation of chipsets. X299 chipsets support up to 24 PCIe 3.0 threads, compared to 8 PCIe 2.0 threads for X99. Paired with modern processors, you'll get Gigabit Ethernet, multiple graphics cards, and a pair of M.2 SSDs, while still leaving room for USB 3.1, Thunderbolt, and a few SATA devices.

Depending on which processor a buyer chooses (Skylake and Kaby Lake), not all X-series chips on X299 motherboards will be the same - you'll get different amounts of I/O support and different compatible RAM configurations. This means that depending on which processor-motherboard pair the buyer chooses, you will either get a motherboard with a bunch of features that you cannot use, or a processor that will be limited by the motherboard.

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Another new product announced at Computex 2017 was the latest gaming monitor ROG Swift PG35VQ from Asus from their Republic of Gamers series in response to the flagship monitor announced last week Acer Predator X35.

The monitor supports Quantum dot LCD technology, which produces a more saturated picture, and is based on a 35-inch curved UWQHD (3440x1440) monitor. Previous model, PG27VQ, had a 27-inch screen with a 16:9 aspect ratio, but the PG35VQ will have an ultra-wide screen with a 21:9 aspect ratio.

Although the parameters of the Swift PG35VQ monitor are very similar to the flagship monitors from Acer, what really sets the PG35VQ apart is the screen refresh rate of 200Hz versus 100Hz for Acer with overclocking to 120Hz. This refresh rate displaced the already impressive 166 Hz frequency in the previous Swift model from the top position. The monitor's design boasts bottom lighting (which you can customize yourself) and a chic, futuristic look.

While resolution and image quality are important, screen refresh rate and response time are the most important parameters for any gaming monitor. An increased refresh rate paired with support for proprietary Nvidia G-Sync technology, Quantum dot technology and HDR will give users a great picture and a new unforgettable gaming experience!

At the moment, Asus has not specified the price of the Swift PG35VQ, but rumors say it will be around $899. The release date has also not yet been announced, but according to information from NVIDIA, the monitor will begin officially shipping in the 4th quarter of 2017.

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Well, that’s all, at the moment these are all the “hardware” gaming innovations that were announced at Computex 2017! Stay tuned for further information.

PS you’re sitting here with 4 cores in the system unit, but in a month or two there will already be 18 cores and 36 threads :-D

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SNOWahh! got it. you took the cards out of brackets.

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SNOW

changed the riser to a quality one
what is riser?

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ZMEYIn the cartoon at 100 fps. Well, it doesn’t write the Witcher, it freezes completely. I haven’t installed any other games yet. I need to beat the Witcher, otherwise in a month it will be a year since I started playing it. In my opinion, only the lazy don’t mine right now.

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Posted by vector0r:

ZMEYThere's no point in arguing here. he didn’t see the 60 they should look like in real life. You can't show it in the video.
Yes, I know that it is useless to argue. just having fun

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